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Bike starts losing power, flipping kill switch restores power?

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So I went to the junkyard, pulled an OBD2 socket from an 03 Forester, re-arranged the wires the configuration according to the DIY Code Reading Guide, and spliced it in. It was slightly tricky because the Ninja400 wire colours are different, but I luckily was able to figure it out (only 4 wires, too) going by the wires from my gear indicator plug.

Unfortunately, either I need to simply swap the K-Line and L-Line, or, my reader (Innova 3030e) doesn't read KWP-2000, which I'm thinking is the case because I cant find any information saying that it does. So, while it powers on, after blinking "read" for 20 seconds or so, it just says "Error". Will update once I get a new OBD reader. will most likely get a bluetooth one.

As of now, still no answers yet.

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What are the pinout for plug it into obd2 reader I found nothing about it . I Know That its connect to 4-5 ,7, 15 and 16 pin on obd2 but With withch wire of the kds plug
Thanks
 
I'm assuming you did read this, but just to repost it:

It's true though that it doesnt show the actual wire colours. perhaps because they very?

For me it ended up being:

OBD2 -----------I----------KDS
pin4/5 -----------> yellow/black (Ground)
pin 7 -----------> yellow/red (K-Line)
pin 15 -----------> orange (L-Line)
pin 16 -----------> yellow/white (12V)


Incase anyone's wondering, I've recently ordered another new fuel pump, going to take a second crack at taking the OEM pump and bracket apart. I'm 99% sure my issue is the fuel pump on it's last legs.
Thank You , mine dont have same color , z1000 2007
 
I'm assuming you did read this, but just to repost it:

It's true though that it doesnt show the actual wire colours. perhaps because they very?

For me it ended up being:

OBD2 -----------I----------KDS
pin4/5 -----------> yellow/black (Ground)
pin 7 -----------> yellow/red (K-Line)
pin 15 -----------> orange (L-Line)
pin 16 -----------> yellow/white (12V)


Incase anyone's wondering, I've recently ordered another new fuel pump, going to take a second crack at taking the OEM pump and bracket apart. I'm 99% sure my issue is the fuel pump on it's last legs.
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You didn't need to cut the harness, You could buy the factory Sumitomo HM-4P female plug off Amazon for $6

2007 2009 your z1000 ?
 
If I remember correctly, the L-Line is not used, only the K-Line. So 3-pins should be enough to communicate. Be carefully though, DO NOT give your K-Line 12v by accident, it could fry your ECU. Triple check your wiring.

I remember back in early 2000's, if you showed up to a VW dealer with an aftermarket stereo they would refuse to work on your car because a lot of people unknowingly hooked up switched 12v to the original head unit harness's K-Line, which then ended up frying the dealer's $15,000 VAG 1551 scan tool.
ok thanks for the notice 😅 , I also try with my inno a 3060 but no possible connection , I order a bluetooth reader on amazon kwp2000 compatible so gonna try with this one , for the z1000 2007 2009 I found nothing precise for wiring the kds plug to obd2 .. so I will be careful
 
Sorry you're having trouble man! The only way I was actually able to figure out my wiring, was BECAUSE the aftermarket gear indicator was there. The gear indicator only has 3 wires, (red, black, and white) so I assumed correctly that red was power, black was ground, and white was K-Line, and could easily see which wire colour the gear indicator wires were corresponding to. As mentioned, L-Line isn't used, so I knew that the 4th wire was the L-Line.

You could potentially google a gear indicator for your model, and going off a photo, figure it out that way!

And yes, the unit MUST say that it is KWP2000 compatible. I was using a scanner that simply said "works on all ECU's", and kept getting error. Then I used a bluetooth scanner that was specifically compatible with KWP2000, and got the reading "no stored codes".
sound good thanks a lot , I order on amazon the bluetooth scanner and I now comparing the 2 wiring diagram z1000 2003 and z1000 2007 are you able to confirme me the color wire of you gear indicator with you wiring color , with the wiring diagram I suppose that the red(gear indicator) is on the white/yellow the black one of you gear indicator is one the black/yellow and the white one on the red/yellow ?
 
That info is already in my previous replies to your question, but to re-iterate. Once again, this is for my 2003 Z1000, originally from the USA (not a Canadian bike).


OBD2 -----------------------I---------------KDS-------------------Gear Indicator
pin4/5 black/blue -------------> yellow/black (Ground) --------- Black
pin 7 brown/white -----------> yellow/red (K-Line) -------------- White
pin 15 white/black -----------> orange (L-Line) -----------------
pin 16 red/black --------------> yellow/white (12V) -------------- Red
thank you 😎