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Z1000 Standard ? or Sportbike?

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Z1000 standard or sportbike? Lets hear your thoughts.

I had the chance to ride this bike in early 2010 and let me tell you... Its not a standard. It very well might be classified as one, but if you swap the bars its not to far away from a great sportbike!

The only thing that really makes this a standard are the front bars. So comfortable but yet it handles amazing!
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I cant wait to get to see this in person. I like that is really sportbike oriented! if it really handles and performs the way everyone is talking... then I think this is going to be the bike of the year.
if it is a sit up than it is a standard, naked or street fighter. to me it is a street fighter style bike.
ya but standard is totally different then street fighter is it not?
Triumph Bonneville is a modern(?) standard. Z is a Super Naked.
I like that... Super Naked! lol
Super Naked sounds good. I like it all the better due to the cheaper insurance!
max wedge, lets see you are a old mopar fan. im a old ford fan but i always had mucho respect for a bad *** stage 3 ramcharger. also like the 68 340 dart.
max wedge, lets see you are a old mopar fan. im a old ford fan but i always had mucho respect for a bad *** stage 3 ramcharger. also like the 68 340 dart.
How the heck did you come up with that analogy?
in the 60s dodge had a 426 cubic inch race engine called max wedge. in 64 the hemi replaced it. not knowing max wedges age i just thought he was a huge mopar fan. i might have egg on my face over this one.
Wow... well even if you are wrong I learned something today!
Hey guys, sorry, haven't checked this forum lately. Spend more time on KawiForums. Will definitely spend more energy here- we need it. I have serious Z questions and all those dorks know about is 250 weedeaters and which helmet-mohawk looks best w/ their punk-*** zx600.
Yeah anyway, Mopar (Chrysler's MOtor-PARts division for Plymouth Dodge Chrysler Studebaker Packards) Made the Max Wedge engines from 62-64. They were high compression engines (11:1 or 13.5:1 !!!) in either 413 or 426 ci sizes. They were offered in small to intermediate sized cars like the early Darts and Polaras. You Chevy guys know about the COPO cars, right? Corporate Office something something.. I feel terrible- I'm a Chevy guy but can't remember it right now (I'm trashed and been arguing w/KF guys). Anyway, same sorta thing. Full-on race engines, 410/420 hp (413ci) or 415/425 (426ci)with 500+++ lb.ft. of torque. Valve springs so thick they couldn't use v.seals, so they burnt massive amounts of oil. Two Carter carbs at opposite corners of the engine. When you ordered this option for your "cheap/economy" car, for about $374.00, you also got a locking diff, aluminum hood and front fenders, and special (super cool and effective) hood scoop. At the time Nothing available from ford or GM could beat it at the strip. And it was cheaper than the closest competitor. In 64 they put Hemi heads on the same motor to make the RaceHemi, which I believe was only offered to Mopar-sponsored teams (NASCAR, drag, etc), which led to the SUPER-famous "de-tuned" Street-Hemi, found in late-60's to early 70's street cars like Roadrunners, Chargers, Challengers, GTX's, Barracudas/Cudas, etc..
Anyway, this was a super-powerful engine/option, that nobody knows about (anymore), and I've been using it as a user name for like 6 years on all kinds of forums. Oddball, powerful, misunderstood, unappreciated vehicle, like my Z1000.
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Max, COPO stands for Central Office Production Order. My family has both GM and Mopars. I caught the name when I first saw you on here but didn't think much of it. What do you have for cars? My brother has a restored '69 Camaro pace car, BB 4spd, dad has the '67 Camaro pace car, BB 4spd that's still original even down to the redline tires. Got a couple other cars in pieces right now as well.
Holy thread detail, Batman!

FWIW, I think the Z (at the 2010, which is the only one I've ridden) has the best of both worlds. The comfort of a standard and the soul of a sportbike.
Super Standard, I like that also, standard seems like a cb750, or something with shaft drive, sport bike, it's not, or at least, not by todays standards (parton pun), street fighters (proper explanation) are sport bikes crashed where riders remove farrings, to save on replacement parts, and install bar risers. There for, factory manufactures cannot create a line of street fighters.
Hey guys, sorry, haven't checked this forum lately. Spend more time on KawiForums. Will definitely spend more energy here- we need it. I have serious Z questions and all those dorks know about is 250 weedeaters and which helmet-mohawk looks best w/ their punk-*** zx600.
Yeah anyway, Mopar (Chrysler's MOtor-PARts division for Plymouth Dodge Chrysler Studebaker Packards) Made the Max Wedge engines from 62-64. They were high compression engines (11:1 or 13.5:1 !!!) in either 413 or 426 ci sizes. They were offered in small to intermediate sized cars like the early Darts and Polaras. You Chevy guys know about the COPO cars, right? Corporate Office something something.. I feel terrible- I'm a Chevy guy but can't remember it right now (I'm trashed and been arguing w/KF guys). Anyway, same sorta thing. Full-on race engines, 410/420 hp (413ci) or 415/425 (426ci)with 500+++ lb.ft. of torque. Valve springs so thick they couldn't use v.seals, so they burnt massive amounts of oil. Two Carter carbs at opposite corners of the engine. When you ordered this option for your "cheap/economy" car, for about $374.00, you also got a locking diff, aluminum hood and front fenders, and special (super cool and effective) hood scoop. At the time Nothing available from ford or GM could beat it at the strip. And it was cheaper than the closest competitor. In 64 they put Hemi heads on the same motor to make the RaceHemi, which I believe was only offered to Mopar-sponsored teams (NASCAR, drag, etc), which led to the SUPER-famous "de-tuned" Street-Hemi, found in late-60's to early 70's street cars like Roadrunners, Chargers, Challengers, GTX's, Barracudas/Cudas, etc..
Anyway, this was a super-powerful engine/option, that nobody knows about (anymore), and I've been using it as a user name for like 6 years on all kinds of forums. Oddball, powerful, misunderstood, unappreciated vehicle, like my Z1000.
well i new huh, i am a 63 year old 60s mustle car nut. what is the diff from a max wedge nd a stage 3 ramcharger [ the orange monster]
Dodge called the MW engine option the "Ramcharger" in their adds and Plymouth called em "Superstock". I don't know what the Stage 3 refers to.
Anyway, Ma Kawi herself calls the Z1000 a "Super Naked", as reported by Sportrider.com, TotalMotorcycle.com, MCNews.com, Topspeed.com, etc. etc.. Whatever that means.
I think for any bike to be called a sportbike, it has to come with the requisite wrist and neck pain along with the optional lower back pain. :)

I had a Ninja ZX-6R (pain) and moved on to a 2006 Z1000 (no more pain), followed by a Ducati Monster S4RS (pain again), and finally to my current 2008 Z1000 (pain be gone).

This bike, particularly the 2010 Z1000, will arguably set the standard (pardon the pun) for the "Super Naked" category that's being coined these days, although Streetfighter (the style of bike and not the Ducati model) might still be the original moniker that should be used out of respect for how these bikes came to be.
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