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Over the years as a Kawasaki rider, I have often heard this phrase. I have come to the conclusion that the only bike that is a REAL BIKE out there; is a Harley Davidson. I don't have anything against what they are riding. (which is a social statement on wheels, that makes noise) It just gets on my nerves.... I know I am not the only one that has heard this, so who else doesn't have a REAL BIKE?


...I guess that makes my bikes UNREAL, and I am ok with that! :D:2cents:
 

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I hate that phrase.....

I always get it from people who ride Harley as well. Or those that have race bikes....

I just tell them well... see I picked this bike because its what I wanted..:cool:.

Every body has a Harley, CBR, or an R6.


Second thing most people say "what the F is that" a Ducati or a Buell:screwy:


My rant
 

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I love my Z1000 to death. I wouldn't have bought it otherwise. But I can also see the appeal of other types of bikes, so I don't put down any of them. In fact, if I had the garage space, I would love to have a Harley V-Rod or Ducati Diavel in there, and maybe a BMW touring bike and a Triumph Daytona 675R supersport too. Plus a Speed Triple. And maybe a Harley XR1200 when I felt like cruising... :) In my mind, there's a place for all of them.

I agree about the noise though - why do most Harley riders feel they have to go with straight pipes? And how is it legal? I doubt you could get away with a car that was that loud.
 

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I love my Z1000 to death. I wouldn't have bought it otherwise. But I can also see the appeal of other types of bikes, so I don't put down any of them. In fact, if I had the garage space, I would love to have a Harley V-Rod or Ducati Diavel in there, and maybe a BMW touring bike and a Triumph Daytona 675R supersport too. Plus a Speed Triple. And maybe a Harley XR1200 when I felt like cruising... :) In my mind, there's a place for all of them.

I agree about the noise though - why do most Harley riders feel they have to go with straight pipes? And how is it legal? I doubt you could get away with a car that was that loud.
I totally agree! I don't care what it is. If it has two wheels I'll ride it. The Z I just bought seems to fit my style for now. Im not willing to sacrifice performance for comfort so it seems the Z was right for me. Plus I checked on insurance and a zx 10 was 800 a year, Vs a Z which is 200 a year. I think I can deal with a little slower bike that has slightly less finesse in the corners.
As for the Loud pipes. I really don't get it. Yes a Harley sounds good At idle. I'll give em that. But why does a Harley rider have to crack the throttle a good twenty times while setting at a red light? It's not a two stroke that you have to clean out! I guess I like a more discrete type of attention.
 

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my grandfather owns a harley davidson shop in warren michigan..he was quite pissed when i got my first "jap bike" and still refuses to ride next to me now lol. when they ride i must be in the back of the pack and a distance away. i will one day probably own a harley but i certianly cant afford one now and i find these bikes to be a way more exciting experience to ride. he has a softail that will blow the wheels off of my bike but i would never take it through a corner and i deffenitly would not ride it far from home as its not all the reliable not to mention the amount of money it cost to build it. infact while im ranting in my experience some of them (harley owners) will not even wave back while going down the road lol. with all of this said i totally see where you coming from man.

as for my grandfather....better to be pissed off then pissed on hahahahaha
 

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I get it from one of my best buddies. He has a custom V-Rod with tons of chrome and loud pipes. He wants even louder ones now! Within 6 months he dumped his wife of 25 years, got a barfly girlfriend and several tattoos! I figure his original investment of $10,000 for the used Harley will cost him over $650,000.00 by them time the divorce is over! Jap bikes are much cheaper then that. Besides his bike must be broken because it only goes from bar to bar. hehehe
 

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I totally agree! I don't care what it is. If it has two wheels I'll ride it. The Z I just bought seems to fit my style for now. Im not willing to sacrifice performance for comfort so it seems the Z was right for me. Plus I checked on insurance and a zx 10 was 800 a year, Vs a Z which is 200 a year. I think I can deal with a little slower bike that has slightly less finesse in the corners.
As for the Loud pipes. I really don't get it. Yes a Harley sounds good At idle. I'll give em that. But why does a Harley rider have to crack the throttle a good twenty times while setting at a red light? It's not a two stroke that you have to clean out! I guess I like a more discrete type of attention.
I just just got my Z and coming off a 1700cc yamaha cruiser the Z is way more comfortable to ride and doesn't tire me out with all that extra weight like the cruiser did so I don't think there is a sacrifice in comfort
 

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Yes a Harley sounds good At idle. I'll give em that. But why does a Harley rider have to crack the throttle a good twenty times while setting at a red light? It's not a two stroke that you have to clean out!
THIS!


my grandfather owns a harley davidson shop in warren michigan..he was quite pissed when i got my first "jap bike" and still refuses to ride next to me now lol. when they ride i must be in the back of the pack and a distance away. i will one day probably own a harley but i certianly cant afford one now and i find these bikes to be a way more exciting experience to ride. he has a softail that will blow the wheels off of my bike but i would never take it through a corner and i deffenitly would not ride it far from home as its not all the reliable not to mention the amount of money it cost to build it. infact while im ranting in my experience some of them (harley owners) will not even wave back while going down the road lol. with all of this said i totally see where you coming from man.

as for my grandfather....better to be pissed off then pissed on hahahahaha
That would make me not want to be associated with an HD even more. I can't believe he treats you that way b/c of what you ride. I would own a fleet of Jap bikes just to spite him if it was me, lol!

I get it from one of my best buddies. He has a custom V-Rod with tons of chrome and loud pipes. He wants even louder ones now! Within 6 months he dumped his wife of 25 years, got a barfly girlfriend and several tattoos! I figure his original investment of $10,000 for the used Harley will cost him over $650,000.00 by them time the divorce is over! Jap bikes are much cheaper then that. Besides his bike must be broken because it only goes from bar to bar. hehehe
V-Rod.....comfy, not quite a Harley, and yet not really a speed demon either.... Hopefully the bike was not a deciding factor in the divorce. 90% of the harleys around here get polished, and go to the bar, or ride through town racking the pipes off. I don't think they see highway miles.....:lol:
 

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First of all a rice burner is a Two stroke. 2nd If a real bike makes diesel like sounds, has the handling of a tank,and looks like a train. I guess I have a unreal bike.:thumbsup:
 

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This morning I had a guy poking at my Kawasucky as he called it. and I told him It was much better than a Harley. When He repeated it, I said we can line them up if you would like to see which one is sucky.... He says, "..and you would probably win, my HD is in pieces" I said "I thought you Harley guys call that a kit!" ...and I got dirty looks and walked away. I will be seeing you fellas in the reflecting rectangles found at the ends of my handlebars.
 

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Guys I am from Greece living in the US and I think I ll never get that Harley thing. If I want to sit on a couch I ll stay home, not take it on the road. and what about those leather club vests? they all think that they are outlaws. Ok not all of them, some are cool...
 

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"what about those leather club vests? They all think that are outlaws "

I had to get used to them myself. It made me feel uncomfortable at first but, I ride with a group of guys that all wear the Icon club vest thingies on Sunday's. It took me a while but now I hardly notice it. They all want me to join the club. I tell them I'm too old to sport a vest and would rather maintain a my low profile ride in the rear down the highways then kick your butt in the canyons! They just laugh cuz they know I can and I do it almost every weekend.
Maybe it is because when I grew up but I don't get the outlaw biker thing at all. Growing up in SoCal back in my day the only vests you saw were on Hells Angels, Mongols, or Hessians. I often wonder what would happen if you ran into a group of them while sporting your "Assassin Riders" vest on a jap bike?!
 

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Yeah, when I hear someone say that, I ask how much extra they had to pay to squeeze any kind of performance out of their Lazy Boy on wheels. Then I point out that mine came stock with the ability to smoke the shyte out of their $30K+ bike with $6-10K in extras on it - all for $10K even.

Harley riders are bad enough - but I have found the worst of the worst here in the Bay Area: African-American Harley riders. They bling out their bikes, use pipes loud as all hell breaking loose, then they ride right on the centerline of the lane so you cant lane split, all the while looking side to side to see who is checking them out on their loud *** Harleys. Meantime, Im behind them, just trying to get home, and the idiots never bother actually looking in their MIRRORS - too busy looking at cars to see if the cars are checking them out. Freaking IDIOTS. Half the time, they get attitude with cars they are trying to pass, and as they pass them, will knock the side view mirror on the car.....so I do the same thing to them as I pass them. F*** it - aint like they are using their mirrors either, right?

And when you go ride the lake, everyone waves at everyone else, no matter what you ride - unless its a Harley. They ONLY wave to other Harley riders.

Know the difference between a Harley and a Hoover vaccuum?
The position of the dirtbag.
 

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Know the difference between a Harley and a Hoover vaccuum?
The position of the dirtbag.
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Ha thats funny:lol:

Some Harley guys a%$ holes some are nice..

I would buy a Harley in second (CVO Street Glide, Sportster 1200 1948) but I dont have the cash..............They do have a pretty cool history to them and its always kool going to the Harley Museum in Milwaukee
 

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My buddy rides a 2010 Harley-Davidson Super Glide. He's been riding motorcycles for a total of almost two years now!!! He is the Harley Davidson Maketing Department's wet dream. He won't even get on his bike without the HD "do-rag" HD Shirt or jacket (or both), HD rings, vest and pins, well, you get the picture. So when I sold my yamaha Road Star 1700 Midnight Warrior to get my Z1000 he was a bit put out with me since I no longer rode a cruiser. He doesn't "get it." I've owned 15 bikes in my life and like the Z the best. The Z will go anyplace his HD will go, only quieter & Quicker.
 

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You guys have to remember that HD sells a life style along with their bikes. I ride to have fun and relax, and could give a crap if they dont like what I ride. They even hated buells when I rode one of those, but now that I ride the Z Im sure they really hate that!
 

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"V-Rod.....comfy, not quite a Harley, and yet not really a speed demon either...."
See how we are. He gets that same talk from all the Harley riders also. I guess since Porsche designed the motor, Harley put the V-Rod in a new frame and everybody gets to bag on it.
Kinda like the Buell. An ex-employee starts up Buell, 10 years later Harley buys 49%, 10 years after that they buy the whole company and 15 years later they go broke! The Harley guys never would call it a motorcycle. They even hated the idea they were sold in Harley dealers.
It's fun to bang on them, but I have had several "so called Bikers" as friends. They're just people too. Different strokes for different folks!
I'd still rather have my UNREAL bike...
 
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