[QuickZedOne]

Let me first say that I in no way condone exhibition riding and wheelies on public motorways....

I feel as if this is a dumb question, that I am pretty sure I already know the answer to, but for the sake of conversation, is clutching up "bad" for your clutch? It seems as if it would shorten the life of your equipment tremendously, yet damn near every sportbike rider I know loves to get right beside me and ride off into the sunset on one wheel. Pulling the wheel up in first is almost effortless, but to do so in second seems a little more tricky. I would like to learn how people do it. (on a closed course) I am assuming you simply rev the bike and dump the clutch? I guess the tricky part is knowing that "sweet spot" that will pull the front end up. Does anyone have any pointers or stories about doing this? I am probably the most responsible rider I know, so responsible that I can count on one hand how many times I have had the front tire off the ground on my Z, but we all get those little urges to be naughty from time to time......

 

[jrick56]

woukl think it would be rough on the clutch. but i can tell you it is rough on the transmission. when i was trying to buy my second zrx. i looked at 2 with bad 2nd gears from clutching up in second gear. i've ridden with 3 cbr 1000 rrs and all of them would power up in 3rd gear. one in 4th(not stock). my z comes up in 2nd now haven't tried to ride it yet the roads were bad and didn't want to push it. when the roads clear i will let you know. :dontknow::dontknow::dontknow:

 

[QuickZedOne]

It looks like it would be a blast to do, but not worth the price of the repair work..... I'd like to figure it out just to say I can do it, but I can't see making a habit of it....

 

[KawiGrnNmyVeins]

I ride with yepimabiker (on this forum) and he does 2nd gear clutch-ups pretty easy....
I (on the other hand) have tried this to no success. 1st gear power-ups I can pull pretty
confidently, but haven't gotten comfortable just dumping the clutch at speed....another survival instinct I guess lol. Never did wheelies at all til about a year or so ago....but I too would like to get over the hump, so to speak. We both ride 07 Models like yours so you might ask him what he does and if it's effecting his bike.

 

[QuickZedOne]

I am like you, I have tried a couple of times, but probably not aggressively as I probably could have. Something just seems weird about doing that at 40- or 50 mph..... Maybe I'm just being a sissy.....

 

[tomohawk]

Yeah, I've only tried it a handful of times outside of first gear. And even then, only half assed attempts not wanting to flip it over backwards. Never got it more than a couple inches up. Power ups in first gear all the time, on accident many times just ripping away from stoplights with my buddies. Won't power up in second, but I'm putting it on a dyno and tuning it this spring since I modded it.

 

[jrick56]

fuelmoto sent me a map with my muzzy it's close but am going to tune this spring.it comes up pretty easy in second now and feels strong in third..i could ride first to the rev limiter some times before mods. will be testing second this week if the weather permits. still a little hesitant since going over backs in 04 on 6 month old zrx.

 

[z1 kid]

My Z will power up 1st 2nd. Hit a hill and 3.4.5 will power up. I clutch 2nd and 3rd. I had a gsxr1000 and my Z has not disapointed me.

 

[notabiker]

it is hard on the clutch, trans,chain and your wallet.

 

[zephyrboy738]

I can wheelie with no clutch in 1st/2nd&3rd.2nd gear get going 45-55mph then let off the gas just a little then open it hard as you pull on the handle bars,it will come up with a little practice just be-careful. 3rd gear is the same process but a lot harder because you are going 70-80 mph.practice in 1st gear first then move on to 2nd then 3rd. the z1000 has plenty of power so there is no need to clutch it up,in fact that would be scary:screwyull in the clutch open the throttle wide open then let the clutch out real fast hope this helps

 

[QuickZedOne]

I can wheelie with no clutch in 1st/2nd&3rd.2nd gear get going 45-55mph then let off the gas just a little then open it hard as you pull on the handle bars,it will come up with a little practice just be-careful. 3rd gear is the same process but a lot harder because you are going 70-80 mph.practice in 1st gear first then move on to 2nd then 3rd. the z1000 has plenty of power so there is no need to clutch it up,in fact that would be scary:screwyull in the clutch open the throttle wide open then let the clutch out real fast hope this helps

Nice, I will have to play around with it. I am usually a pretty reserved rider, so most of this is new to me. Get me out on the old dirtbike and it is a totally different story...... Something about getting rocks picked out of my backside keeps both wheels on the ground.....

most of the time.....

 

[Curtie223]

Personally, not with just the Z. I would much rather clutch up than power wheelie. When clutching you have alot more control of the speed. And you dont have to "dump" it. Run it about 5k and pull it in just a bit. Don't take much tach it up to around 7500 then let out. And you want to do this in one motion. JMO

 

[jrick56]

zepher. that can't be stock. or you are a very good rider.

 

[jrick56]

curtie i've heard that alot from riders. i remember when i first got my new zrx. i ran into a guy with one and he said man will these things wheelie. i said i can't get the front end up. he said no way. i said my bike won't do that he said yes it will. i said show me. he took my new zrx and road about 1/2 mile on the back wheel in first gear. then the same in 2nd. he clutched up both times. i have never clutched up a wheelie. after i modded the rex it would come up all by itself in first. thats all i ever tried.:dontknow::dontknow::dontknow:

 

[Z1000 Rider]

^

For me, I'm on the other end of the spectrum and am a firm believe in power wheelies, for myself anyway. I've always had much more confidence using the power to pull a wheely as I feel like I have a much better idea of how much the front end is going to come up by how I jab the throttle. When I clutch up, I feel like I don't always know how much it's going to come up as well and because of it I've never had much confidence when using that method. Plus, I like the fact that I'm not abusing the drivetrain quite as much.

At the end of the day, it's all just a matter of one's a opinion and preference on it though.

 

[ridingswitch]

I can wheelie with no clutch in 1st/2nd&3rd.2nd gear get going 45-55mph then let off the gas just a little then open it hard as you pull on the handle bars,it will come up with a little practice just be-careful. 3rd gear is the same process but a lot harder because you are going 70-80 mph.practice in 1st gear first then move on to 2nd then 3rd. the z1000 has plenty of power so there is no need to clutch it up,in fact that would be scary:screwyull in the clutch open the throttle wide open then let the clutch out real fast hope this helps

Im going to try this method.

 

[notabiker]

my age is showing,i like both tires on the ground as much as possible. i did wheelie my ZRX if i was racing somebody. but it was always a controlled low one in first and part of second gear. i just do not like to tear up my equipment that much. i am sure i am in the minority.

 

[zephyrboy738]

I use to use the clutch for bringing up the front wheel on my 1973 CB 500 Four. When I bought my 1992 Zephyr 750. Then I learned how to bring up it up with out using the clutch. I would get going about 20MPH then let off the gas just a little then hit it hard at the same time pull on the handle bars and the front end came up. Once I learned that technique it was on. So when I got the Z1000 it had enough power to come right up in 1st with little or no effort, So one day I said to myself self let's see if it will come up in 2nd gear,but this time I did use the clutch and it did. So then I said to self let's see if it will come up using my other technique and it did with a little practice and a lot of gonads. This is when my bike was all stock,but now that I have full exhaults,PC3 and so on it's much easier. Just remember Kids DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

 

[z1 kid]

My 06 gsxr1000 i could stand it up all 6 gears. Really it takes knowing your bike power and knowing when to apply the throttle and or clutch. I'v never rode the earlier Z1000 But the new one is a torque monster. My bike is stock just two brother slip ons no pc. I always power up first it dont take much throttle at 3k she comes up nice and smooth. 2nd gear i usually clutch as well as third 2nd i us one finger and blip it as well as some throttle input you don't need much. Third you need more throttle and clutch i would say around 7500 8k rpm clutch and twist the throttle. I have pulled 4th and 5th over hills as soon as you get to the peak crack the throttle DON'T DO THIS IF YOUR NO COMFORTABLE RIDING WHEELIES ON A FLAT ROAD AS THE BIKE WILL ROTATE FASTER AND COVER THE BRAKE!!!!!. Now my opinion anyone riding a 1k or a liter bike asking how to ride wheelies should not be riding them as there is no room for throttle error.

 

[zephyrboy738]

My 06 gsxr1000 i could stand it up all 6 gears. Really it takes knowing your bike power and knowing when to apply the throttle and or clutch. I'v never rode the earlier Z1000 But the new one is a torque monster. My bike is stock just two brother slip ons no pc. I always power up first it dont take much throttle at 3k she comes up nice and smooth. 2nd gear i usually clutch as well as third 2nd i us one finger and blip it as well as some throttle input you don't need much. Third you need more throttle and clutch i would say around 7500 8k rpm clutch and twist the throttle. I have pulled 4th and 5th over hills as soon as you get to the peak crack the throttle DON'T DO THIS IF YOUR NO COMFORTABLE RIDING WHEELIES ON A FLAT ROAD AS THE BIKE WILL ROTATE FASTER AND COVER THE BRAKE!!!!!. Now my opinion anyone riding a 1k or a liter bike asking how to ride wheelies should not be riding them as there is no room for throttle error.

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