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Has anyone tried to change stock suspension setup? I was thinking about changing mine.
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Change what? Have you setup the suspension for your weight and riding style?
The first thing to do is setup your SAG heights:
Now you have a starting point to fine tune it from for your riding style.
A steering damper is a good thing to add next. It will make all the difference in the world on your bike no matter what kind it is. I find the stock suspension setup properly works great in the canyons and on the street. Add some sticky tires and off you go.
The first thing to do is setup your SAG heights:
A steering damper is a good thing to add next. It will make all the difference in the world on your bike no matter what kind it is. I find the stock suspension setup properly works great in the canyons and on the street. Add some sticky tires and off you go.
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Thanks for this tutorial.
Yep, i did set the front rider sag at 32mm, but the rear is nowhere near 12mm according to what they say on this video. From what i read about suspension setting i think this guy mixed up static sag with a rider sag, cause 30 mm of static sag is a bit too much but i might be wrong. I asked Dave Moss from on theThrottleTv for advice, he said that 35mm front and 32-35 rear rider sag is fine. The problem is that my rear rider sag is about 43mm with the rear spring preload almost in its max range, maybe 2-3 turns left.
As for the steering damper, its on my shopping list for this season, the only one i found is scotts, weld on. Anyway thanks for response.
Yep, i did set the front rider sag at 32mm, but the rear is nowhere near 12mm according to what they say on this video. From what i read about suspension setting i think this guy mixed up static sag with a rider sag, cause 30 mm of static sag is a bit too much but i might be wrong. I asked Dave Moss from on theThrottleTv for advice, he said that 35mm front and 32-35 rear rider sag is fine. The problem is that my rear rider sag is about 43mm with the rear spring preload almost in its max range, maybe 2-3 turns left.
As for the steering damper, its on my shopping list for this season, the only one i found is scotts, weld on. Anyway thanks for response.
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I just set my static sag fairly close to what the tutorial suggests. 26mm in front, 14 in back. Thats a good starting point to then adjust according to your weight and style. I weigh about 150 in full gear and so far this setup has worked really well. When I bought the bike, the previous owner had changed the stock settings and it was way too soft in back and to hard in front.so far the suggestions from this tutorial are almost spot on for me.
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Static sag doesn't really mean much aside from telling you if your spring rate is correct.
Get your rider sag right, then check your static sag. If static is roughly about right then you've got the right springs. If your static numbers are almost nothing, then you need a heavier spring, if they're too high then you need a softer spring.
For the most part on the road (unless you're super picky), static sag doesn't really have much baring unless you've got nothing at all. Concentrate on getting your rider sag correct first then if static is out, sort your springs out.
To a certain extent, you can compensate a little with Comp/Rebound if your numbers are off. Really depends how much money you want to spend to get it perfect.
Sounds like you've got the same problem I do. *** is too big and the shock/spring isn't up to the job. You could get a bigger spring and get the shock revalved/new shock, or go the cheap way and wind your preload all the way in and bump up your compression a little to help. 43mm is a bit high, but it's not extreme. Wind your preload collar all the way in and give the adjuster a half turn and see how it goes, if it's still terrible you may have to look at getting a heavier spring and getting the shock internals revalved.
Edit: If you plan to remove the spring yourself, be careful because the Zed's springs have a decent amount of preload on them with everything wound out. Get a nasty case of spring flying across the room. Def invest in a coil compressor or get a pro to do it for you.
Get your rider sag right, then check your static sag. If static is roughly about right then you've got the right springs. If your static numbers are almost nothing, then you need a heavier spring, if they're too high then you need a softer spring.
For the most part on the road (unless you're super picky), static sag doesn't really have much baring unless you've got nothing at all. Concentrate on getting your rider sag correct first then if static is out, sort your springs out.
To a certain extent, you can compensate a little with Comp/Rebound if your numbers are off. Really depends how much money you want to spend to get it perfect.
Sounds like you've got the same problem I do. *** is too big and the shock/spring isn't up to the job. You could get a bigger spring and get the shock revalved/new shock, or go the cheap way and wind your preload all the way in and bump up your compression a little to help. 43mm is a bit high, but it's not extreme. Wind your preload collar all the way in and give the adjuster a half turn and see how it goes, if it's still terrible you may have to look at getting a heavier spring and getting the shock internals revalved.
Edit: If you plan to remove the spring yourself, be careful because the Zed's springs have a decent amount of preload on them with everything wound out. Get a nasty case of spring flying across the room. Def invest in a coil compressor or get a pro to do it for you.
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I asked Dave Moss from on theThrottleTv for advice!
Good idea, I like his videos, full of good information.
Sprint Steering Damper is what I'm running. No welding, complete bolt-on.
http://www.sprintdampers.com/
Good idea, I like his videos, full of good information.
Sprint Steering Damper is what I'm running. No welding, complete bolt-on.
http://www.sprintdampers.com/
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I have to correct my recent post. While adjusting my rear spring i thought it was in its max, there was not enough light and didn't see exactly the end of the thread on the spring tube. It was in fact in half of the range. Finally i set the rear rider sag at 33 and front at 35 mm.Also changed the tires to Dunlop Q2s and switched the tire size from 190/50 to 190/55. After all i found the bike much more stable in curves and that weird feeling on the entry is gone. The bike flows through the corners nice and smooth now. I think the main problem was soft rear. I'm also getting less feetback from the front too which is good, at least for me.
Anyway thanks all, oh almost forgot, Sprint damper rocks, recommend it to anyone.:thumbsup:
Anyway thanks all, oh almost forgot, Sprint damper rocks, recommend it to anyone.:thumbsup:
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